One of the recurring themes on this blog is epistemic humility — the discipline of recognizing the real limits of what we know. A key part of that discipline is staying genuinely open to perspectives beyond our own. This is harder than it sounds. When a particular view resonates with us, it’s tempting to stop looking around, assume we’ve arrived at the truth, and start filtering everything else through that lens. Once we’re there, rationalization comes easily.
The pattern shows up on all sides. Some Christians seize on a handful of unresolved challenges to evolutionary theory and conclude the whole framework must be false — conveniently setting aside the enormous body of evidence that supports it. Some atheists point to the Crusades and treat that history as a decisive refutation of Christian faith itself, ignoring centuries of counterevidence and the faith’s positive contributions to human civilization. In both cases, a real and legitimate concern gets weaponized into a sweeping verdict that the evidence doesn’t actually support.
Christian Nationalism is a prominent contemporary example of the same dynamic working in a different direction. At its core, Christian Nationalism holds that the United States was specially established by God to fulfill a divine purpose, and that the country should therefore be governed according to Christian principles — either explicitly or implicitly. A softer version of the argument doesn’t go quite that far but insists that America’s Christian heritage must be protected and privileged at the institutional level. Either way, the practical result tends toward a kind of mandated religious legalism.
I think Christian Nationalism is mistaken, both politically and theologically. But perhaps more relevant to the epistemic point here is that many of the ideologies associated with it are rejected by large numbers of Christians and Christian denominations. It represents one particular strand of the faith — a vocal and visible one — not Christianity as a whole. Treating it as the defining face of Christianity is as much an overgeneralization as treating the Crusades that way.
And yet that overgeneralization is increasingly common. Christian Nationalism has become, for many skeptics, the latest exhibit in the case that Christianity is obviously false or obviously dangerous. The move is understandable — these are real and serious problems — but it’s still a logical leap. The failures of a particular political-religious movement don’t settle the deeper questions about the truth of the faith’s fundamental claims. Confident as that reasoning can feel, it mistakes a legitimate criticism for a decisive refutation.
This blog doesn’t traffic in dogmatic conclusions — with perhaps one exception: a fairly firm conviction that dogmatism itself is a trap. So I’m not interested in defending Christian Nationalism, which I think represents a genuine distortion of the faith. But I’m equally skeptical of the move to reject Christianity wholesale on the basis of its worst expressions. The more honest and intellectually productive path is to push past those surface-level examples and engage with the broader tradition and its actual claims. That engagement won’t deliver certainty. But it does require the kind of open-minded, evidence-sensitive thinking that Christian Nationalism, ironically, seems least willing to model.
(Note, this essay was created with assistance from an AI, but the ideas and overall organization are mine.)
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if there are “strands” and not one can show that they are any more valid than the rest, there is no reason to accept any of them for the “truth” they are claimed to be. Christianity, at its core, is based on division and hate. It depends on the claim of eternal torture, at worst, and death, at best, to control people and to punish people. There is no reason to tolerate something like this when it has no evidence its claims are true.The harm that the many versions of christianity has caused far far outweighs any benefits. The sciences would have arisen with or without it. Cooperation existed long before these religions.
“But it does require the kind of open-minded, evidence-sensitive thinking that Christian Nationalism, ironically, seems least willing to model”ROFL. Curious how that is completely false. Where is this supposed “modeling” by the Nat-C’s? These are those who are vaccine deniers, bigots, racists and theocrats. And it’s not just the crusades, it’s the wars between catholics and protestants where they murdered each other at the stake. It is the inquisition that destroyed many. It is the doctrine of discovery when christian leaders said that anyone but a christian may be enslaved in their colonialism. It is the attempts by christians to force their religious laws onto everyone through the government. The lies that the US is a christian nation is again more of that harm and deceit. You seem to be trying to whitewash what christianity, and so many other religions, have done.
I’m not claiming that Christianity must be true, based on any evidence, only that it falls within the range of possibilities given the real epistemic uncertainty that exists regarding current human understanding of the ultimate nature of reality. Within that uncertainty, I’ve decided to place my hope in the way that Jesus and his teachings seem most clear to me. I continually test that against other’s beliefs, new evidence, and my life experience because, to be honest, I could be wrong.
As an atheist, I assume that you’ve found a path that rejects other expressions of atheism such as those of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot (who also caused massive death and suffering), just as I’ve rejected Christian fire and brimstone teachings, crusades, and the like. How would you describe where you place your hope, or are you dogmatic enough to claim certainty?
“But it does require the kind of open-minded, evidence-sensitive thinking that Christian Nationalism, ironically, seems least willing to model”. In other words, Christian Nationalism does not model these things – it seems to be closed-minded and ignores evidence. How is that false? I think the statement is true, and one of the reasons that earlier in the essay I wrote: “I think Christian Nationalism is mistaken, both politically and theologically”. Perhaps you misinterpreted me.
ROFL. Magic has never been an answer for anything for millennia. Your claims of probability are based on presuppositions that have nothign to support them.
So your hope is in vain, and your cult fails like all oher cults that have failed and faded for millennia.
It’s always hilariosu when christians try the lie that Mao, stalin and pot did genocide because they were atheists. Sorry, dear, they did it because they were megalomaniacs, and your lies fail again. I never had anything to learn from them since atheism isn’t about genocide.
You rejected a part of a cult you don’t like and made up your own nonsense. Just like every other cultist.
I put my hope in myself and others, no magic nonsense needed.
Sorry, I read that last sentence as “at least willing to model”, so I was wrong. And considering how all of christianity says that ignorance and blind trust of their god is what is required, how is this open minded or evidence based at all?
Christianity, like many other views of metaphysics including atheism, has evidence (not proof) that both supports and disconfirms. You may reject this, as some do, by continuing to use your own definitions of evidence. Ignorance and blind faith is not central to all versions of Christianity, so you also are cherry-picking the Christian views that support your perspective.
Yeah the mentions of Mao, etc, could have come across as a cheap shot. I don’t really see their actions as resulting from atheism, and so shouldn’t have phrased it that way. I also don’t see the actions of the Crusaders as resulting from Christianity other than the faith being used as a warped justification, similar to the way it is being used by Christian Nationalists today. In all these cases, the basic forces seem to be the age-old drives of power, greed, etc. Ideologies are just servants to those views because doing that works to manipulate people.
My point was really to illustrate that we are both cherry-picking the things that support what we want to believe. Although perhaps only one of us is willing to admit it. 🙂
What exactly do you mean by “magic”? Do you have a clear definition of when something needs to be considered a “magical” story?